Dueling needs some important changes

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So i'm a builder/worker level 15, doing jobs such as prospecting. there is no warning whatsoever that i am in the process of being Dueled by a player who is the same level but his dueling rank is 2-3 levels above me, (While working a job)

I have nothing against duelers whatsoever, but the mechanics of the dueler seems to be a unfair advantage in this game. There is no way I can go to town and put my money safely in the bank or in town treasury while i'm actually doing a job.... Where i have to work to actually get paid, like any job....

I strongly suggest that that the west staff either removes the ability of being able to duel when someones on the job or perhaps have a distance warning before being dueled (such as a message that a dueler is traveling to you to duel you, you have exactly 30 minutes (or whatever it is) to deposit to bank, town treasury, etc.

I have nothing against duelers, or losing $17, I can make that up in 1 job. But the way it is now if I have $55 in cash and get dueled by 2 people that is a 50% loss and that in my opinion is rediculas when theres no way to defend myself from the dueler, there needs to be some defense mechanics. I know I could just deposit a small amount of cash to the bank or town treasury every couple jobs, but it's pretty annoying having to trouble 10-45 minutes to even get to my town when i could be using that time to do more jobs. I am online 12 hours a day usually and would like to actually spend that time doing jobs and actually playing the game, then having to waste half of my time going to town.

What do others think about this? should there be some restrictions if your in the process of doing a job? such as prospecting?
 

DeletedUser

There is a way to defend from said dueler; put skills into dueling.

EOD.
 

DeletedUser

yes I agree it is quite ridiculous when your being attacked while your working on a job, especially if it is a job where you think it would be hard to be attacked...
 

DeletedUser

So when would you like to be dueled? while sleeping?...
that's the game, get your dueling skills up and keep your money in the bank, don't whine about it.
 

DeletedUser

Sigh.

The problem is that this game encourages specialisation in skills and clothing; the non-dueler puts skill points into non-dueling skills and money into working clothing, and the dueler puts skill points into dueling skills and money into dueling clothing and weapons. Result: when the dueler duels the non-dueler, the non-dueler is outclassed even if they're the same level, and when the dueler tries to do a job, they can't because they don't have the skills or clothing needed, and both end up complaining. The other problem is that dueling is heavily biased in favour of the attacker in terms of how the duel is played out.

Unfortunately, without a complete re-think on the skill set and dueling set-up (which is highly unlikely), there will always be these complaints.
 

DeletedUser

I'm a dueler and I don't complain about not being able to do some of the jobs workers can so I expect the workers not to whine the other direction.
 

DeletedUser

craz I think your a bit TOO biased

I have to agree that there SHOULD be some sort of notification to the dueled I also think that there should be no way they can goto sleep once a duel is started but they should be able to deposit up to half the money they are carrying and they should be able to change clothes ON BOTH SIDES
 

DeletedUser

I have a worker friend who thinks the same as me in that matter so it has nothing to do with being biased.
 

DeletedUser

Well I AM a worker and a dueler and an adventurer when I'm out dueling I look for when the most are not only awake but out working....

as a worker I have to check in more often to be sure a few duelers didn't decided to come raid my town sure costs a LOT of money if I get knocked out

as an adventurer I have to really watch to be sure I don't keep money on me.. otherwise it'll get stolen

so a fair notification system I think IS in order!
 

DeletedUser

It should be the case that duels happen in exactly the same way BUT as soon as someone has instigated a duel against you a warning is given, so that if you are online you can take evasive action.
 

DeletedUser1105

It should be the case that duels happen in exactly the same way BUT as soon as someone has instigated a duel against you a warning is given, so that if you are online you can take evasive action.

That is the best solution to it. If you are not online, tough luck. If you are, you can try to avoid it.
 

DeletedUser

I agree-it makes the game more realistic and can't be that hard to do.
 

DeletedUser

They thought about it when they made this game. Yes the duellers can win easily and steal others money, but its their only source of income. Workers and adventurers can to jobs that award good cash and exp and with a luck they can find good gear as well. So this is as balanced as it can be.
 

DeletedUser

So when would you like to be dueled? while sleeping?...
that's the game, get your dueling skills up and keep your money in the bank, don't whine about it.
So everybody should be duelers? Don't be ridiculous. I can say the same way to you :"Put your points into working skills and don't go so up with your dueling skills!" and it will be the same. Now you must understand that you can't defend yourself when you are not a dueler because dueler is better at dueling!!! There are only two options for you - dueler or non-dueler. But the sheriff is comming so I hope it will be easier for non-duelers to work.

PS: I was only refering to CraZ "solution" :) not a problem as it is, because that's the way it is.
 
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DeletedUser

I think the system is just fine the way it is. Let the non dueler use those options available to him/her, because they are there. Shifting too far to the right or the left is only going to unbalance the game and probably make it unplayable. So in plain parlance, "It aint broke so quit tryna fix it!"
 

DeletedUser

I think its fine the way it is...

You make it too easy for the worker and the point in dueling is lost. Thered be no money in it...

Either raise your duelling stats or quit complaining

(The dueling worker strikes again)
 

DeletedUser

So everybody should be duelers? Don't be ridiculous. I can say the same way to you :"Put your points into working skills and don't go so up with your dueling skills!" and it will be the same. Now you must understand that you can't defend yourself when you are not a dueler because dueler is better at dueling!!! There are only two options for you - dueler or non-dueler. But the sheriff is comming so I hope it will be easier for non-duelers to work.

PS: I was only refering to CraZ "solution" :) not a problem as it is, because that's the way it is.

It's the only solution there is. the deference is that I'm not whining about not being able to do the jobs they can do. every class has its advantage and its disadvantage and you have to take that in to calculation when you choose a class.
 

DeletedUser

The system is stacked in favor of the dueler in the fact that they set themselves up for the attack and the defender does not get that chance. If I am workign I might equip items to boost my points to allow me to do that job, but usally these items boost the stats that are not used in dueling. So not only does the dueler get to pick whom to duel (and of all the duels I have had only 1 time has it been with someone the same or lower deul level to myself), but they aslo get to put on their best items to beef up their attack, which can make a huge difference.

What I think should happen is that the should be 2 equipment screens, one specifically for equiping items for dueling, this should allow the deuls to be more even.

I think most people don't mind losing a duel, but what most non-dueler classes hate is being robbed unfairly becasue of the huge disadvantage.
 

DeletedUser

the duelling system is stacked in favour of the dueller
the other systems are stacked in favour of their respective classes.
You are happy to take the advantages of the class you choose and build you elect to go for but don't want to be bound by the disadvantages. that strikes me as unfair
 
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