Gambling

DeletedUser1105

I used to be against the idea of poker houses, but I am for it now. However, it would not work if it is located in either
1) Any town that wants one or
2) Specific towns

Because if any town can upgreade to it, there will be too many poker houses around to get enough players. And if they are located in specific areas, everyone would have to travel to that place (which could take hours) before it could start. Wouldn't work.

The way to do it is to just have it on the game as a link in every town - i.e. a gambling house. Towns have to build it if they want to join in.

However, the gambling house just links to one big one that EVERYONE goes to. So, whoever is online, no matter where on the map they are (as long as they are in their town) can go and gamble.
I agree with a gambling 'level' - i.e. the more you play the more your level goes up. This does NOT give you more luck or anything, but it allows you to enter 'higher stakes' games. I.e. a level 1 gambler can only join games where the buy in is $10. Level 10 gamblers can join where the buy in is $1000.
 

DeletedUser

Let's do some rough figures. There are maybe 30k active players, maybe 1k on the game at any one time. maybe one in ten fancy agame of poker. therefore there is room for maybe a dozen card tables on the game. So if the largest 12 towns had tables it would take an average of perhaps an hour or two to get to a game. That might be a considerable deterrant and general boring pain in the arse. However if duelling business took you to the town anyway it would add a lot of spice [especially duelling the guy who won the hand etc!] So i guess i'm disagreeing with you monkey[please feel free to dispute my figures, they are guesswork]
 
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DeletedUser1105

I don't know figures, so I can't dispute them :)

Then again, your figures show 100 people at any one time wanting a game of poker. How many of those are likely to be in the same region, nevermind the same town?

It would take too long for everyone to travel to the same town.

However, if they could go to any town with a 'poker house', they could then join the main 'Gaming Forum', which would work like many other online poker games. You can see all of the games in progress, and the games about to start and you can sign up to ANY game, regardless of where it is starting.

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On a side note, there should also be rules about players from the same town being in the same game. Obvious way of cheating there.
 

DeletedUser

For the moment (5:31PM USA Eastern Time Zone), there are 254,613 players. 3 games worlds. Each world would have roughly 84,000 players. Now Im going to say half of that number are active. We have 42,000 players that are active. 21,000 of them probably stop by to play the game. Now my guess is that 10,500+ total players are online playing any of the 3 worlds. 3,500 for each world.

Now my guess is that atleast 1,500 of them are actually playing as I type this. 1,000 of them maybe busy. So now you are left with the 500 or less.

In my opinion, thats enough people to get a good game of poker going with and with a buy-in of lets say $100, thats $50,000 total prize. (Yes, total prize will be divided between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd places or more)

Now from reading previous posts, it seems like the logical solution would be to have an upgrade to the Saloon to add a "poker table" where once the town you live in has obtained this addition, you can click and connect. It will find and add you to a table. Once you connet, it will automatically take out $100.

Now this connect button will connect you to any player(s) playing poker. There should be a time table for which poker tournaments are held. Each day, different time, different cash prizes. Admins can also add a certain ammount of $$$ to the total to attract more people.

Let me remind you, that you will be playing multiple tables with many players as these tournaments are held in a ladder formation.

Now my numbers are nothing more then hope and guesses. So dont take it to heart if a number seems to be way off.
 
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DeletedUser

Thanks for that Hurley
You will think i'm being horribly picky but i love playing poker and HATE texas holdem.
texas holdem is the game 'the man' wants you to play. i reckon it should be old-style poker. then you aren't limited to having to set up these tournaments and times, people can just drop in for a game. and for realism i guess it should be in town even if that makes it inconvenient. Your figures lok good but i'd dispute your figures that out of 1500 online 500 would be up for a game of poker. that is far far too high. If it was that high, this wouldn't be 'the west' but a poker game in a wildwest setting and we don't want that i hope
 

DeletedUser

Ulthor said:
Thanks for that Hurley
You will think i'm being horribly picky but i love playing poker and HATE texas holdem.
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I understand your hate towards Texas Hold'em. I dont like it to much either. I love it though with 7 players or more. I usually go to little poker games a friend of mine setsa up. Buy ins $20 and on a bad day, atleast 15 people.

I prefer Omaha. Black Jack would be a fun game but I dought "The House" aka your town, would want to lose money.:nowink:
 

DeletedUser1105

The thing is, if you made it one 'casino' per world, that you can connect to from any town, you could have all different types of games on there.
 

DeletedUser

yes but it unrealistic and against the spirit of the game. i completely understand the rationale for pooling the willing players centrally......however as there are so many potentially good ideas out there i feel that we have to be strict and only suggest improvements that are in keeping with the reality of the old west. There is also the idea that a town may be a the hub of all kinds of activity which is a nice one. Keeps it a bit 'seedy'.
I used to think that it should be central, but changed my mind when i did the mathS.
 

DeletedUser1105

I think I am too pessimistic to see your side of things here. I fail to see there being enough people visiting the same town at the same time and being online long enough to play the same game of poker.
 

DeletedUser

ahhh poker a good way to get cash, and it was really in the west sooo i dont see why not, but both players have to be in the same town online at once sooo ya.
 

DeletedUser

monkey, you may well be right. How's about there is initially only one poker licence granted? here's the mechanism....... licence for poker house announced to be sold by auction in say 20 days time. Any town founder that wishes to bid can do so out of the public treasury. Highest bid gets the licence. Underbidders lose money bid. So yes you do have to travel to the town. It would be a hub of brawling.
Think about the scenarios that might ensue...You see me win big at poker, check out where i'm from go there and rob it off me.
 
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DeletedUser

As Ive said befor, the means of traveling wouldnt be a problem. You would have to construct a poker addition to your Saloon, It would have a connect button where it would connect you to an active/waiting table. I would also like to mention that there should be atleast a time limit set in for the winner(s) so they arent robbed as soon as they win. This will give them time to use their winnings and if not, free pickings to the better dueler.
 

DeletedUser

Hurley said:
Title is self explanatory. Gambling in my opinion is one of the biggest images I know of when I think of the Wild West. Putting in some poker would (in my opinion) increase game play.

Players would bet their wages against each other or their items. If you want to get into some bigger bets, even towns. (Not sure if you can own more then one town per person)

Ideas that have been mentioned...
Character Skill - A skill "gamble" to increase your odds of getting the card needed to win a hand.
Constructing a "gambling" building to have your town members play.
Dueling a winner to steal prize.
Host town taxing games to gain a small proffit.
Extra prizes besides the cash prize. Example: weapons, clothing etc.
Level requirment to play in a gambling house.


More ideas will be added. If your new, please read through the posts to get to speed.

I would like to mention that there was a previous post about gambling. I feel its not as descriptive as this one has grown into but I will mention it anyway. If you come across an idea or see something they are discussing and would like to bring it here, do so as I find this to be a really good idea.

http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=70&highlight=gambling&page=6
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I LOVE the idea! Where are we at with this?

Do player/forum ideas ever become reality in games?
 

DeletedUser

Mufasa said:
I LOVE the idea! Where are we at with this?

Do player/forum ideas ever become reality in games?
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on some occasions they do, though it's usually when a mod becomes active in the thread or a mod views a poll and sends it to the devs
your words are surrounded in orangey goodness:eek:hmy:
 

DeletedUser1105

Imaloser said:

on some occasions they do, though it's usually when a mod becomes active in the thread or a mod views a poll and sends it to the devs
your words are surrounded in orangey goodness:eek:hmy:
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Stop with the orange goodness ****.

Ulthor, you actually make a good argument there, you are starting to convince me...
 

DeletedUser

Well the way things are going there will probably be a train to this town too.
Anyways there ARE advantages to being a long way from home. Makes it harder for people to duel you for a start. Still think you should be able to be duelled as soon as you win a game. It's only a third of the money. Come on live dangerously, it's only a game....not like it's real money.
 

DeletedUser

Hurley said:
Title is self explanatory. Gambling in my opinion is one of the biggest images I know of when I think of the Wild West. Putting in some poker would (in my opinion) increase game play.

Players would bet their wages against each other or their items. If you want to get into some bigger bets, even towns. (Not sure if you can own more then one town per person)

Ideas that have been mentioned...
Character Skill - A skill "gamble" to increase your odds of getting the card needed to win a hand.
Constructing a "gambling" building to have your town members play.
Dueling a winner to steal prize.
Host town taxing games to gain a small proffit.
Extra prizes besides the cash prize. Example: weapons, clothing etc.
Level requirment to play in a gambling house.


More ideas will be added. If your new, please read through the posts to get to speed.

I would like to mention that there was a previous post about gambling. I feel its not as descriptive as this one has grown into but I will mention it anyway. If you come across an idea or see something they are discussing and would like to bring it here, do so as I find this to be a really good idea.

http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=70&highlight=gambling&page=6
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you mean this can be added off into the saloon, right?
 

DeletedUser

im against gambling. not because i think it would be a bad idea, but because its always a topic on the front page of this goofy forum and nothing ever gets done about it. so im against it. i vote no. and your head smells funny. like garbage or feet or somethin.
 
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