DeletedUser1105
I don't think polls will get it more attention.
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There's a lot of interest in this and for good reason. Poker is such an iconic image of the old west that there is a picture of it on the homepage of this game. I also note that Gem [who is head honchess round here is in favour of the idea]
The arguements against are weak;
1. illegal.....don't think so, you can play all kinds of card games and lose and win unreal money in a multiplicity of games including U.S. based ones. As long as you cannot take money OUTSIDE the game there should be no problem.
2. Immoral. So it's ok to simulate killing people and stealing but NOT gambling. Give it a rest!
3. Addictive. Better to be addicted to something that can't harm your life. you can't make cars illegal cos some people speed, you can't make drink illegal cos some people are alcoholic.
How should it work?
It should be initially one building in one town that you have to visit to play. perhaps an additional level to the hotel.
This building should be VERY expensive for the town to build.
Players should have to pay [let's say $2] to enter that room. They can then stay there for up to [let's say 2 hours] Half of this money goes to the town treasury.
Should another person, who wishes to enter the game, arrive in the hotel the game can begin. The players wishing to play then put in $1 each to enter a hand and the first game commences. I will enunciate the rules more fully later.
The game played should be DRAW poker and NOT absolutely NOT 'texas hold'em'.
The reason for this is three-fold;
Firstly historical accuracy. Texas holdem is a modern game developed by casinos to speed up betting and would not have been played in the old-west.
Secondly draw poker is a much more exiting game.
Thirdly texas-holdem requires a large number of the same people to be available online for a long period......utterly impractical in an online environment like this. Draw poker is played one hand at a time, players can come in and out at will.
I've kept it brief-ish but have supporting arguements.
The arguements against are weak;
1. illegal.....don't think so, you can play all kinds of card games and lose and win unreal money in a multiplicity of games including U.S. based ones. As long as you cannot take money OUTSIDE the game there should be no problem.
2. Immoral. So it's ok to simulate killing people and stealing but NOT gambling. Give it a rest!
3. Addictive. Better to be addicted to something that can't harm your life. you can't make cars illegal cos some people speed, you can't make drink illegal cos some people are alcoholic.
How should it work?
It should be initially one building in one town that you have to visit to play. perhaps an additional level to the hotel.
This building should be VERY expensive for the town to build.
Players should have to pay [let's say $2] to enter that room. They can then stay there for up to [let's say 2 hours] Half of this money goes to the town treasury.
Should another person, who wishes to enter the game, arrive in the hotel the game can begin. The players wishing to play then put in $1 each to enter a hand and the first game commences. I will enunciate the rules more fully later.
The game played should be DRAW poker and NOT absolutely NOT 'texas hold'em'.
The reason for this is three-fold;
Firstly historical accuracy. Texas holdem is a modern game developed by casinos to speed up betting and would not have been played in the old-west.
Secondly draw poker is a much more exiting game.
Thirdly texas-holdem requires a large number of the same people to be available online for a long period......utterly impractical in an online environment like this. Draw poker is played one hand at a time, players can come in and out at will.
I've kept it brief-ish but have supporting arguements.
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DeletedUser1105
Hello again Ulthor 
Very good summing up there. I would like to see your full rules, especially with regards to how much you can bet. Betting in single dollars is not very exciting, nor profitable.
Very good summing up there. I would like to see your full rules, especially with regards to how much you can bet. Betting in single dollars is not very exciting, nor profitable.
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Hello again Ulthor
Very good summing up there. I would like to see your full rules, especially with regards to how much you can bet. Betting in single dollars is not very exciting, nor profitable.
Well... let me take part in the conv ...
- I think its better to be a new building in the middle of the town...
next to the mortician...A building that will needs about 1000 work hours to
get finished and its gonna add to the town 10 000p when it will be finished.
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-You will have to pay about $20 or $50 to get in...
If you get out and you want to get into the building again you will hv
to pay another $20 or $50....
$20: for players less than the L50...
(you will be able to play after 10th Level)
$50: for players at L50 plus...
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-The players will be able to bet $1000 - $10 000.
Not less $1000 and not more than $10 000.
(This is why the building its gonna cost that much and it will give 10 000p
to the town when it will be finished...)
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- You will be able to play on your own (blackjack or something)
But its gonna be multilayer too...
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- The building/room will have capacity of 20 persons (maximum)
And it will hold 2 tables for multilayer game and 4 for single game.
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-Also about the age matter....
A player will be able to play only if its more than L10 and NOT a
greenhorn...
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Niko0olas
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niko0olas i think your sums are way too high and also looks to me like you are still thinking in terms of a 'buy-in' to an 8 player game of holdem and that is impractical. good idea about green horns. let me try and persuade you...... The only reason for not having a seperate poker building is that there are a couple of strong ideas out there for using the one spare bulding on the town graffic [jail and station] and we don't want to deprive the game of the possibility to adopt those ideas without rejgging the graffics.
The only reason for not having a seperate poker building is that there are a couple of strong ideas out there for using the one spare bulding on the town graffic [jail and station] and we don't want to deprive the game of the possibility to adopt those ideas without rejgging the graffics.
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niko0olas i think your sums are way too high and also looks to me like you are still thinking in terms of a 'buy-in' to an 8 player game of hold em and that is impractical. good idea about green horns. let me try and persuade you......
yh...
i think i was a bit......
well the sums could be reduced...
actually i put some zeros more than i wanted
XD
(LOL)
and the $20 for entrance are not much if you think tht
you will loose everything in there... or... win a big sum of money....
I dont like gambling that much...
Thats why i was talking more for the main things and not the games in
the building
(actually i know nothing about poker...but im very good/lucky at blackjack)
now about the construction hrs....
I think is a logic time period...
If consider that it will worth it in the end....
(also put some zeros more thn i wanted - my keyboard hv a problem with the zero button... :S )
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I agree that it should have to be hard to attain. As for the points the town gets, it does not matter if it adds 1 point or a million.
You should only pay more if you get more benefit. If you pay for the same thing, you should pay the same price regardless of level. I agree that it should cost a bit more to enter than Ulthors $2 fee.
I agree there should be a minimum bet, but $1000 is quite steep. This should be drastically lowered.
Some other games to play would be fun too, with odds at winning money.
I don't think the building should have a limit of players. I agree that there should be multiple tables, so when one is full another one opens.
I don't think greenhorns should be excluded. Remember that greenhorns are going to be duel-able soon enough. What is it with the board turning against greenhorns? It's like everyone is racist towards green people
hmy:But yes, a minimum level to play would be nice. Then it stops people joining the game just because they hear the gambling is fun.
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I agree there should be a minimum bet, but $1000 is quite steep. This should be drastically lowered.
I don't think the building should have a limit of players. I agree that there should be multiple tables, so when one is full another one opens.
I don't think greenhorns should be excluded. Remember that greenhorns are going to be duel-able soon enough. What is it with the board turning against greenhorns? It's like everyone is racist towards green people
But yes, a minimum level to play would be nice. Then it stops people joining the game just because they hear the gambling is fun.
Well... yh... the st*pid 0 keyboard button is broken...
:S
About the limit? well i dont know bt its a good idea...
just to have more growing towns....
(cz people when will visit the town and win money... they would spend it
at the stores in the town - bt thts mine though... nothin more
)And the greenhorns...
I have nothin with them...
Was 1 of them 2 weeks ago... so...
iF they will be duel able...
then... let them come
;P
also ...
some1 learn me POKER
XD
DeletedUser1105
learn you poker?
Draw poker is simple really. Assuming it is 5 card draw that Ulthor means, go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-card_draw
And then here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_(poker)
Draw poker is simple really. Assuming it is 5 card draw that Ulthor means, go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-card_draw
And then here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_(poker)
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2 to 6 players can play at one table.
$1 to play. All five cards are dealt face down.
Players may then change up to 4 cards, again face down.
Each player may then;
1. pack
2. continue betting the $1
3. raise by any amount up to $10.
4. if there are only two players left may 'see' his opponant for double the current stake.
There is no limit to the number of rounds.
players therefore can just play one hand.
those who have paid to enter the casino may watch the games without joining in.
not sure about multiple tables though. can be convinced.
$1 to play. All five cards are dealt face down.
Players may then change up to 4 cards, again face down.
Each player may then;
1. pack
2. continue betting the $1
3. raise by any amount up to $10.
4. if there are only two players left may 'see' his opponant for double the current stake.
There is no limit to the number of rounds.
players therefore can just play one hand.
those who have paid to enter the casino may watch the games without joining in.
not sure about multiple tables though. can be convinced.
DeletedUser1105
I like it. I assume you see your cards before you change some. And then you can see your cards again before betting?
If there are 6 people at a table, you may have another 40 wanting to play, so opening another table would be quite simple, and keep people interested. I wouldn't want to wait for someone to leave the table to try and sit down (undoubtedly being beaten to it by someone else.)
If there are 6 people at a table, you may have another 40 wanting to play, so opening another table would be quite simple, and keep people interested. I wouldn't want to wait for someone to leave the table to try and sit down (undoubtedly being beaten to it by someone else.)
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you got my backing
instead of working and building
you will get 2 now people their and it would make the game a whole lot better
instead of working and building
you will get 2 now people their and it would make the game a whole lot better
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i still think this is a great idea, but all or most of the things that i would suggest have be discussed
i strongly agree with:
1)the poker being in the saloons
2)players must be level 10 or over, but now that greenhorn's are no longer safe from duels, we should let them play(this is because some people just can't make up their mind)
3)minimum bets of $5 and a maximium of 5x your appearance level(if you can't meet this in a game there will be a side pot)
4)going to a brothel could temporarily raise your appearence by 1-5 points depending on which porsitute yo visit(this is if brothels are implemented as well, maybe upstairs in the saloon)
#s 3+4 are things i thought of myself
i am going to make a poll to see which type of poker the players would want implemented
i strongly agree with:
1)the poker being in the saloons
2)players must be level 10 or over, but now that greenhorn's are no longer safe from duels, we should let them play(this is because some people just can't make up their mind)
3)minimum bets of $5 and a maximium of 5x your appearance level(if you can't meet this in a game there will be a side pot)
4)going to a brothel could temporarily raise your appearence by 1-5 points depending on which porsitute yo visit(this is if brothels are implemented as well, maybe upstairs in the saloon)
#s 3+4 are things i thought of myself
i am going to make a poll to see which type of poker the players would want implemented
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your assumptions are indeed correct. I can go into more detail about how the game works, order of hands etc. The important thing is to make it so that people can dip in and out of games.
I'm not 100% sure that a casino should automatically be able to open up another table. Maybe they should have to build the extra facility at say double the cost of the first one? There might be something cool about people needing to queue up for a game. Firstly it makes you realise that casinos are worth building. Secondly while you are watching the action you can be chatting and perhaps heading off to the town of a big-winner to duel them. there might also be a mechanism whereby a waiting player can increase the required minimum stake. So let's say there are 6 people playing and one person waiting. the waiting player has the option to put down $2 to start off the next hand. this also means that the maximum raise doubles to $20. it soon adds up and people don't have limitless money don't forget. let's keep discussing...
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Ok, that's fair enough I think, if you can upgrade to a further table.
The only problem I forsee is late-game, when there are a lot of towns with poker houses. It could become difficult to find a tale with players on.
I don't understand your waiting game, can you expand on that? If the waiting player puts $2, what happens if all 6 players bet that amount? You can't have 7 players in a 6 person limit.
Also, if I have got it right, it would become a game for the rich only, as more waiting players came in, doubling up the stakes, leaving the poorer players unable to play.
The only problem I forsee is late-game, when there are a lot of towns with poker houses. It could become difficult to find a tale with players on.
I don't understand your waiting game, can you expand on that? If the waiting player puts $2, what happens if all 6 players bet that amount? You can't have 7 players in a 6 person limit.
Also, if I have got it right, it would become a game for the rich only, as more waiting players came in, doubling up the stakes, leaving the poorer players unable to play.
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anything to get more money I'm in
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good idea!
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Well as for late game- that is why we have to be very careful about having unrestricted tables. it is always better to have a queue than too few.
if all 6 players are prepared to put in the raised $2 limit then the new player can't join.......but if he ups the stakes enough someone will soon be out of money. A full $1 table can go 10,20,30,40,50,60 in one round thats $210 dollars on the table the first round $1000 in about 3 rounds, it soon mounts up, believe me i play the game. texas holdem it aint. If there is such big money changing hands and you can't get in, go and duel one of the players.
Well you don't have to be rich to enter a game, although you may need to be rich to finish it. just like real life.
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good idea the table problem would be solved by having a communal poker room for each world that was accessed by the poker rooms in each town. that way anyone can play anyone, and that would also be the place to implement the chatroom ability.
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