DeletedUser
Somehow, I get the feeling that fort battles won't get fixed at all and the hinted multiplayer event thing will be the aspect to counter-balance the fort battles.
DeletedUser16008
Do you know that Colorado will be the dullest, fastest dying world yet, all thanks to dumbass players with hp and duelers to combat them.... great fun for all the rest 
DeletedUser33353
No Victor..W15 seems to be quite fun
DeletedUser22685
Good idea! Don't reward dedication or specialisation, let's decide everything with luck!
While we're at it, why don't we take away the importance of aim, dodge, appearance and tactics in duels so that whether you land a hit or not is decided only by where you aimed and where they dodged
DeletedUser
lol happens all the time....there's something called an RTS, where you have to deal with things that come up out of your control.....
DeletedUser
And whether or not people spec health is in YOUR control?
DeletedUser
It would be if fort battles actually involved any significant level of strategy
DeletedUser
There's a reason some attacks succeed when the majority don't.
DeletedUser
Strategy is 10% of the battle, 90% of the battle relies on people following orders.
DeletedUser30834
i just want to chime in with this is not a good idea (i could phrase that differently but would likely get in trouble).
It's like saying limit pure duelers to only dueling 30 levels over their level because it's not fair that other players want to do something else and can't compete and always have their money stolen. While we are at it, we might as well ban all pure luck jobs because luck adventurers get all the best crap and sell it to their towns for next to nothing and someone might cry that it's not fair to other towns. As long as all the mega hp tanks aren't all on the same side, it equals out anyways. And if you find yourself surrounded by part time fort fighters who are more interested in dueling or questing or luck jobs or whatever, perhaps it's you that should make the change instead of trying to force everyone else to do it.
I haven't participated in a fort battle in this Colorado yet, but if the plan is to exclude hp tanks, I might just reskill to a tank and dig forts just to take them from you. It's not like you can stop me if I only rank tanks. I wouldn't even keep them either. I would abandon the forts so someone has to dig them again.
It's like saying limit pure duelers to only dueling 30 levels over their level because it's not fair that other players want to do something else and can't compete and always have their money stolen. While we are at it, we might as well ban all pure luck jobs because luck adventurers get all the best crap and sell it to their towns for next to nothing and someone might cry that it's not fair to other towns. As long as all the mega hp tanks aren't all on the same side, it equals out anyways. And if you find yourself surrounded by part time fort fighters who are more interested in dueling or questing or luck jobs or whatever, perhaps it's you that should make the change instead of trying to force everyone else to do it.
I haven't participated in a fort battle in this Colorado yet, but if the plan is to exclude hp tanks, I might just reskill to a tank and dig forts just to take them from you. It's not like you can stop me if I only rank tanks. I wouldn't even keep them either. I would abandon the forts so someone has to dig them again.
DeletedUser14793
No Victor..W15 seems to be quite fun
Yup W15 is a blast so far!!
DeletedUser
lol you amuse me sumdumass....once again, you misinterpret my intention behind the post. Look up my record of past forum posts. A lot of them are intended to make the game better. Whether or not it's a good idea is not up to me, but at least I try, you know.
DeletedUser30834
I think you are confused.
Was that you in comment to your proposed "everyone play how I want to play to make the game more fun for me" change? Or is someone else whining and claiming to be you in the process.
Fort battles are just fine and there is nothing wrong with players specializing in them by pumping all their skills into battle skills, into health, into luck for jobs, into dueling skills for dueling or whatever else they want to do. Why is this? because it's their game to play, not yours.
lol...And no, I do not need to comb through all your posts in other threads to get some hidden glorious alternative meaning to posts in this thread. You either stated what you meant, or you failed to communicate your thoughts properly. But while we are on the topic, I do remember quite a few other threads where you complained that people weren't playing the game how you wanted them to and expressed a desire to make them play your way in the name of "making the game more fun" (presumably for you which i find somewhat selfish) Actually, I remember more then you doing that and apologize if I've mistaken you for someone else.
In case you are missing the entire point, which I'm assuming you did in my first post, "better" is a subjective term and I do not think your version of better is actually better in any way in this instance. I will work to undermine any attempts you take to stop other players from playing the game however they want to play it. This is not peewee football played with nerf balls where no one keeps track of scores and even the kid who runs the wrong way with his pants down is made to feel equal to the kids who can throw and catch the balll and everyone is a winner.
Was that you in comment to your proposed "everyone play how I want to play to make the game more fun for me" change? Or is someone else whining and claiming to be you in the process.
Fort battles are just fine and there is nothing wrong with players specializing in them by pumping all their skills into battle skills, into health, into luck for jobs, into dueling skills for dueling or whatever else they want to do. Why is this? because it's their game to play, not yours.
lol...And no, I do not need to comb through all your posts in other threads to get some hidden glorious alternative meaning to posts in this thread. You either stated what you meant, or you failed to communicate your thoughts properly. But while we are on the topic, I do remember quite a few other threads where you complained that people weren't playing the game how you wanted them to and expressed a desire to make them play your way in the name of "making the game more fun" (presumably for you which i find somewhat selfish) Actually, I remember more then you doing that and apologize if I've mistaken you for someone else.
In case you are missing the entire point, which I'm assuming you did in my first post, "better" is a subjective term and I do not think your version of better is actually better in any way in this instance. I will work to undermine any attempts you take to stop other players from playing the game however they want to play it. This is not peewee football played with nerf balls where no one keeps track of scores and even the kid who runs the wrong way with his pants down is made to feel equal to the kids who can throw and catch the balll and everyone is a winner.
DeletedUser
The West is not meant to make you king of the world. There are plenty of other games that do that. "My way of playing" is an opinion shared by many others, in the interest of making things fun for everyone. The current "way of playing" is very unbalancing and players have left in droves. If you think it's "better" to play the west on your own where you have ridiculous stats, might as well play a sandbox game or some random farming game.
DeletedUser30834
King of the world? Really? You mean there aren't supposed to be winners and losers in a game?
There is a contradiction of terms here. First, your way of playing is an opinion not shared by me nonetheless by players who are becoming HP tanks, but more importantly, it wouldn't be fun for me to be limited and handicapped so you and your minions of "others" can enjoy playing the game only the way you want it played, so it couldn't be fun for all. Second, this is the way the game is presented to us. It is the way people have chosen to play just like you have chosen to not dedicate yourself to one aspect of the game. Suggesting that we should stop playing or play some other game so you can have your way is beyond selfish ignorance. Perhaps it's you who should go play a different game where there are no winners or losers and everyone plays by your rules so you stand a chance at mediocrity in style.
This world is not a skill buying world, there is no reason why you cannot compete to the same level as they do. There is however your desire not to dedicate yourself to one aspect of the game which comes with consequences just the same as the person who does dedicate themselves to one aspect. Your desire to force others into playing your way should not free your choices from their own consequences and subject others to them. Perhaps you would be better off creating your own game with your rules and either market it to inno games or put it out there by itself and see how many people flock to it.
DeletedUser
I can just hear Joxer saying, "There needs to be an endgame!"
I have dedicated myself to one aspect of the game, if you didn't notice....I'm a tank.....lol
I have dedicated myself to one aspect of the game, if you didn't notice....I'm a tank.....lol
DeletedUser30834
Then quit crying about it then.
DeletedUser
I'm not crying about anything...you have quite a vivid imagination....
DeletedUser30834
I guess i imagined a thread created for the purpose of attempting to complain about players who played differently then then you want them to,
Yup, sorry I imagined everything. please carry on.
a suggestion to all play like you want them too,
, and a comment about excluding players who did not play how you wanted.
which all revolves around some notion that the game should be a gamble based around random luck instead of applying skills and knowledge discovered in the game.
Yup, sorry I imagined everything. please carry on.
DeletedUser
You seem quite content to be in the dominant position, so I don't blame your for throwing out such wild accusations. The proliferation of tanks is a vicious cycle, just an arms race to one-up each other. Look at the Cold War and how it resolved. Making other fort battle skills more important would balance out hp. What I'm saying is not new. It has been discussed on and off for months. You hadn't jumped in then, so I don't see why you should now. Goodbye.